Here are our week five picks, and I really hope I can start making my way back to a winning record overall.

Bears @ Colts (-4.5)

The Colts are the first team to waive their right to have a bye after playing in London as they wanted one later in the season and so welcome the Chicago Bears into Indianapolis this week. How they play will be a test that many with an interest in a London franchise will be watching carefully, the problem being that the Colts are not exactly playing well to begin with. The Bears picked up their first win of the season last week, with Brian Hoyer offering stability at quarterback, and I find it hard to believe that the Colts should be giving four and a half points to anyone so I’ll back the Bears to at least cover in this one.

Gee’s Pick:          Bears
Dan’s Pick:          Colts

Patriots @ Browns (+10.5)

The Cleveland Browns look like they have found some skill players on offence, even if they have not managed to convert any of their performances into anything like a win. Everybody is expecting Tom Brady to walk back into the Patriots team and pick up where he left off last season, but with Rob Gronkowski playing limited snaps as a blocking tight end things might not be that straight forward. However, I’m not prepared to pick against them even after last week’s surprising loss to the Bills.

Gee’s Pick:          Patriots
Dan’s Pick:          Patriots

Eagles @ Lions (+2.5)

The Detroit Lions are really missing Ezekiel Ansah and DeAndre Levy on defence, and have dropped three straight games after their opening weekend win. The Eagles are coming off a bye, and I don’t see anything in this game that would make me hesitate in picking the Eagles. That is likely something that should worry the fans in Philadelphia.

Gee’s Pick:          Eagles
Dan’s Pick:          Eagles

Titans @ Dolphins (-3.5)

I am finding this game hard to pick as the Titans have not been playing well, and Marcus Mariota has not looked like he has progressed. However, their defence has been pretty solid and the Dolphins have really been struggling. I can easily see the Titans keeping this close, or the Dolphins using this as a get right game. In the end I think it might be close and that extra half point is leading me to take the Titans, which should be good news for Dan.

Gee’s Pick:          Titans
Dan’s Pick:          Dolphins

Texans @ Vikings (-6.5)

The Texans may sit atop the AFC South with their 3-1 record, but I think that visiting the Vikings in their new stadium is one of the tougher assignments in the NFL at the moment. The Texans are only one game into life without JJ Watt on defence for the season, but my real worry is Brock Osweiler who has thrown more interceptions than touchdowns this season, and still needs time to settle into an offence that has a lot of new receivers. I think it could well come good for Osweiler in the end, but Minnesota is not the place to succeed without an established offence.

Gee’s Pick:          Vikings
Dan’s Pick:          Vikings

Jets @ Steelers (-7.5)

The Jets are really struggling, with Ryan Fitzpatrick really throwing too many interceptions in the last couple of weeks and the injuries racking up at receiver. Their problems in the secondary mean that their defence is ranked twenty-eighth in DVOA despite their fearsome front. The Steelers got back to winning ways last way in a big way, and the shuffling of their offensive line should worry me going into this game, but Ben Roethlisberger is such a tough quarterback to bring down, and with all the options he has in the passing game I see the Steelers having far too much for the Jets to worry them.

Gee’s Pick:          Steelers
Dan’s Pick:          Steelers

Washington @ Ravens (-3.5)

This is a really hard game to call for me as I don’t have strong opinion on either team. For Washington it seems that Kirk Cousins is beginning to find some form, whilst the Ravens are coming off their first loss of the season. With no game decided by more than six points this season, and their last two games won or lost by a margin of two points or less, I am picking based on the Ravens specialising in close games.

Gee’s Pick:          Washington
Dan’s Pick:          Washington

Falcons @ Broncos (-6.5)

I am really looking forward to this game as we are going to see one of the hottest offences in the league go up against one of the toughest defences. However, the Falcons defence is almost as bad as their offence is good, and playing on the road in Denver I still fancy the Broncos to cover this line.

Gee’s Pick:          Broncos
Dan’s Pick:          Falcons

Bills @ Rams (-2.5)

The LA Rams stand atop of the NFC West with the Seahawks thanks to a defence that is playing well and an offence that is playing really badly. I don’t have a handle on how they are doing this, but that is fine because the Bills have broken my expectations by firing their offensive coordinator and winning two straight. To say I don’t know what to do in this game is an understatement, but given the gap in overall DVOA and the fact that I have more faith in Tyrod Taylor than Case Keenum I am going to pick the Bills and see how wrong I can be.

Gee’s Pick:          Bills
Dan’s Pick:          Bills

Bengals @ Cowboys (+0.5)

The worry for me is that Tyler Eifert now has a sore back and so is out of this game, so whilst the Bengals are coming of a Thursday night win and have had a little extra time to prepare, the red zone efficiency is still a big worry. They travel from Cincinnati to face a Cowboys team who don’t have the best home field advantage and have a rookie quarterback who has played very well but not faced a defence of the quality of the Bengals. I am concerned that this is a pick of fandom over reason but I am making it anyway.

Gee’s Pick:          Bengals
Dan’s Pick:          Cowboys

Chargers @ Raiders (-4.5)

The Oakland Raiders have managed to get themselves three road wins with an offence that is playing as well as anybody and a defence that has really struggled. There have been a lot of struggles in the secondary and this week they go against one of the best quarterbacks in the league. Luckily for the Raiders, the Chargers have not put Rivers in a position to win often enough and the injuries have piled up again. It is likely the Chargers are going to be competitive again, which makes me hesitant to pick against them but I feel like the Raiders are heading in the right direction whilst I worry about how the Chargers are constructed and where they are headed.

Gee’s Pick:          Raiders
Dan’s Pick:          Raiders

Giants @ Packers (-7.5)

All the headlines surrounding the New York Giants are regarding Odell Beckham, and whilst these are justified to an extent, the balance of the offence and how the Giants were on defence did not inspire last week against the Vikings and this week they travel to face the Packers in Green Bay. The Packers are coming off a bye and it looks like Jordy Nelson is beginning to find his timing with Aaron Rodgers. The points worry me as the Packers let the Lions back into their week three game that they were leading 31-10 at halftime, but their defence has looked good, although they will miss Sam Shields, and so I’m nervously backing the Packers to win big here as I think they are the better team.

Gee’s Pick:          Packers
Dan’s Pick:          Packers

Buccaneers @ Panthers (-3.5)

The Panthers are without Cam Newton and have not been playing well this season, but Tama Bay are ranked near the bottom of the league in offence and overall DVOA, with a first year head coach that is struggling on the side of the ball he is responsible for. I am not sure whether the Panthers can turn their season round, but I think they should run out winners over the Bucs in this one.

Gee’s Pick:          Panthers
Dan’s Pick:          Buccaneers

Things are afoot with the Wrong Football, which meant that I overlooked the post I was meant to put up announcing the teams that Dan picked before the games were played on Sunday. This will have been particularly annoying to Dan as he had a better week than me and has already won week five, it’s just a matter of how many games he will claw back, but for the record these were his picks for the Sunday games with his selections in Bold:

Washington @ Falcons (-7.5)
Bills @ Titans (+2.5)
Bears @ Chiefs (-9.5)
Seahawks @ Bengals (-1.5)
Browns @ Ravens (-6.5)
Rams @ Packers (-9.5)
Saints @ Eagles (-5.5)
Jaguars @ Buccaneers (-2.5)
Cardinals @ Lions (+2.5)
Patriots @ Cowboys (+9.5)
Broncos @ Raiders (+5.5)
49ers @ Giants (-7.5)

Tonight he is backing the Chargers as they host the Steelers, and I’m in the strange position of wanting my division rivals to win so I get a game back this week. I’m not hoping that hard…

As the majority of NFL teams reach the quarter mark of the season and take stock of their start to the season, I’m having a rethink about the format of the blog as I’m spending too much time writing up a 3.5-4k picks blog that is big enough that it is stopping me for watching coaching tape and writing about what I see. So I am going to comment on some of the themes from last week, anything that strikes me about the upcoming games, and finally a quicker run through the matchups plus our picks. Let’s not talk about how we both did last week.

The obvious theme that comes out of week four is presented to us by the rotten start the Dolphins have had to the season and the firing of their head coach Joe Philburn. There is more to a team winning than the quarterback or coach, in fact an American football team requires more players, more coaches, and more coordinated effort than any other sporting endeavour I can think of. From the players, to the coaching staff, behind the scenes personnel, and the front office, there are so many ways that a franchise can gain a competitive edge, but this also leaves a huge amount of room for dysfunction. I don’t want to pile on to the Dolphins too much, for the sake of Dan’s sanity as much as anything, but things are clearly not running harmoniously down in Miami.

It is unusual to fire NFL coaches mid-season as so much work is done before the start of the season, and there is so little time to work on new things once the season starts, that in most cases you just have to ride it out with an eye on developing young talent and what is coming up in the draft. However, Miami have too much talent and have invested too much into the short-term to let things slide any longer, and so Philburn had to go. I’ll leave the in depth dissection of Philburn’s tenure to fans of the Dolphins and the media, but the change in coach doesn’t necessarily mean a change in outcome. There were plenty of people impressed by Dan Campbell’s introductory press conference, but it was interesting to listen to Coach Reinebold on the Inside the Huddle podcast point out that despite what he proclaimed when questioned, Campbell will have an opinion on the defensive coaching having gone against them in practice all season, and so he is either not being as forthright as some would believe in that press conference, or he is not paying as much attention in practice as you would want. Either way he has leaped over both coordinators, which may not be that surprising given how they have been performing on both sides of the ball, but is not standard and it will be interesting how the new head coach goes for the rest of the season. The Dolphins seem to very much be under the Chinese curse of may you live in interesting times.

If you look wider, at team records across the league, you will see a lot teams that are familiar to us through offseason splashes in the last couple of years struggling whilst those teams often at the top tend to be quietly developing their teams through careful free agent transactions and the draft. There is no single way to build a football team, but it appears that if you are hearing too much about your team without having to search out information explicitly, then a rough season might be on the way.

With that said, it’s time to take a look at the upcoming games, passing quickly over the mess Dan and I made of our picks last week.

Gee:    Week 4   6-9               Overall   32-31
Dan:    Week 4   4-11             Overall   28-35

Colts @ Texans (+2.5)

The Texans have been a bad team so far, they’re not playing well on defence despite having Sirr JJ of Watt, and Head Coach Bill O’Brien really made a mockery of stating that Hoyer wouldn’t have a short leash by benching him after three quarters in the first game. This team are a living testament to the old saying that if you have two quarterbacks, then you don’t have one, and I’m not surprised that they only started scoring points against the Falcons last week when Hoyer started playing in garbage time, but apparently Mallet remains the starting quarterback.

This week they welcome a Colts team that did enough to win last week with a forty year old backup quarterback against a Jaguars team that can’t quite find a win, but I still don’t trust their defence or offensive line. With the quarterback questions surrounding the Colts I’m still trying to make up my mind as I go through this final edit, Dan has already changed his pick, and I’m reluctantly following suit given the Texans are at home, but I am not happy about it.

Gee’s Pick:    Texans
Dan’s Pick:    Texans

Scheduling note: Dan is away this week, so he has picked the Thursday night game, and will get the rest to me before Sunday so I can get them up on the blog.

Washington @ Falcons (-7.5)

That wasn’t exactly a more concise write up for the last game, but this on is easier. The Falcons are transformed this season, and even a slightly banged up Julio Jones couldn’t slow them down last week. The NFC East is something of a mess this season, but Washington do seem to be able to hang their hat on solid run offence and defence, and look to be finally heading in the right direction, but this is a step too far for them.

Gee’s Pick:     Falcons

Bills @ Titans (+2.5)

The Titans finally are beginning to carve themselves an identity with a blitzing defence, and a rookie quarterback showing promise. Meanwhile the Bills are a confusing 2-2 as they switch between terrifying defence and picked apart. We always knew that the Bills offence could be hit and miss with a first year starter at quarterback, but the better quarterbacks seem to be finding something against Rex Ryan’s pressure schemes. In years to come this probably changes, but I’m not ready to back Marcus Mariota in this one yet.

Gee’s Pick:     Bills

Bears @ Chiefs (-9.5)

I’m struggling to let go of my hope for the Chiefs. They have so much of what I enjoy, a great running back and a stunning pair of pass rushers. The problem is that a combination of offensive line play and Alex smith holding onto the ball on offence, plus a defence that is giving up to much in the passing game, means that they are not winning against the tough teams they’ve faced so far. However, whilst the Bears managed a win last week, I don’t expect them to give the Chiefs too many problems, but I’m not sure that the men in red will be blowing anybody out in the near future, even in front of their famously raucous fans at Arrowhead. I can’t quite believe I’m backing the Bears…

Gee’s Pick:     Bears

Seahawks @ Bengals (-1.5)

Good teams win at home, so the cliché goes, but it has been a foundation of the Bengals recent playoff appearances. They are playing very well this year, although I’d like the pass coverage to improve a bit, but that is a bit picky given that they are still ranked 14^th by Football Outsiders in pass defence. They welcome a Seattle team that have got back to 2-2 by the skin of their teeth, but whilst the defence is looking better with the return of Kam Chancellor, I’m not convinced by their offence, which is not running the ball at all well. If you only just beat the Lions with your famous home field advantage, I’m not backing you to win in the Bengals’ back garden.

Gee’s Pick:     Bengals

Browns @ Ravens (-6.5)

The Ravens haven’t managed the latest roster transition as well as we have come to expect, with a lack of depth at receiver and corner really costing them, but at least they ran the ball a bit better in Pittsburgh in a game they were determined, if a bit lucky to win. The Browns skill players are playing better than I was expecting, and Josh McCown has demonstrated over the last two weeks why he is starting, I’m just not sure what it established over the long term. I expect the Ravens to win, especially given the Browns run defence, but not by seven points or more, even with the Browns travelling to Baltimore

Gee’s Pick:     Browns

Rams @ Packers (-9.5)

The Packers showed they could win another way, and still beat the 49ers by two touchdowns. The Rams defence has now managed to play well for two straight weeks, and if rookie running back Todd Gurly can show more flashes as they work him into the lineup then they might start to edge towards progress, but I don’t see them having any luck against the Packers in Green Bay. In fact, looking at the schedule I’m not sure the Packers will lose in Lambeau during the regular season.

Gee’s Pick:     Packers

Saints @ Eagles (-5.5)

Oh what a holy mess the Eagles are in, but whilst some are enjoying their schadenfreude, I’m just finding it all a bit sad. I was hugely impressed by Kelly in interviews last year, but I did not like a number of his offseason moves, and once the regular season hit the limitations of attempting to beat someone by scheme in a professional setting are all too prevalent. That said, if their line was playing better then they might be able to run the ball better, which has always been the mainstay of this offence.

This week the Eagles welcome a Saints team that got a win last week with the return of Drew Brees. That said, they took overtime to do it and I’m really not impressed with the Saints defence so far. After a long game, and travelling, I have a feeling that they will not have enough to beat the Eagle in Philadelphia, I’m just not sure how close the game will be.

I don’t have a lot of faith in either team, particularly with these points, but I’m reluctantly picking the Eagles, but if you like a bet please stay away from this game!

Gee’s Pick:     Eagles

Jaguars @ Buccaneers (-2.5)

The Buccaneers are going to struggle all year, they can’t rely on their defence, and famous Jameis does not look settled in the pro game, is looking down receiver and throwing too many interceptions. This is one of the games the Jaguars have to have circled, even if they are on the road. They are missing key players yet keeping themselves in games against similar level competition, but they can’t get over the hump. I have a feeling they might win this one though, and as I’m getting points as well…

Gee’s Pick:     Jaguars

Cardinals @ Lions (+2.5)

The Lions played tougher on defence last week, and really should have won the game, but the offence is misfiring. There is a lot of disquiet about Matthew Stafford in Detroit, but with a ropey offensive line and no running game, the Lions aren’t exactly putting him in the best place to win. The problem is that he has never made good decisions, and this week he faces a Cardinals team that will be desperate to get back to winning ways after laying an egg against a division rival. I still believe in the Cardinals coaching staff and I’m backing them to get back to winning ways in this one.

Gee’s Pick:     Cardinals

Patriots @ Cowboys (+9.5)

The Cowboys have a well coached defence, but they didn’t have the players before they started to get injured, and add to that an offence that has lost their starting quarterback and the receiver that stretches the field for them and you have a recipe for trouble. A visit from the Patriots is not what they need to get back on track, and the Cowboys must be kicking themselves for not getting a win in one of the last two weeks as I don’t see a way they will in this one. I’ll be interested to see if the early bye affects the Patriots later in the season, but I see nothing in this game that makes me worrying about the Patriots covering.

Gee’s Pick:     Patriots

Broncos @ Raiders (+5.5)

The Raiders are officially an up and coming team in my book, but they are also young, which means they make mistakes and so they were unable to get a second straight win on the road last week. This week however, they welcome a Broncos team that are struggling on offence as they can’t run the ball consistently, and Peyton Manning threw two bad picks in their close win against the Vikings. The Broncos are a team that right now is relying on their defence, which I suspect means a series of tight games, and whilst I think they will win more than they lose, I think this is too many points to give to the Raiders.

Gee’s Pick:     Raiders

That’s right folks, he just picked the Raiders against an unbeaten team with that defence, I’d better get back to watching coaching tape soon and rely on what I can see with my own two eyes.

49ers @ Giants (-7.5)

The Giants have a solid run defence, and an offence that seems to be coming together as the line play improves and Manning begins to get more timing with the receivers not named Beckham. The 49ers have played one of the toughest schedules in the league so far, and travelling across the country in this game won’t help. They are playing some tough defence in stretches, but are an absolute mess on offence and desperately need to run some bootleg and simpler concept pass plays for Kaepernick who has been a truly dreadful quarterback this season.

Gee’s Pick:     Giants

Steelers @ Chargers (-3.5)

The Chargers always have a chance with Philip Rivers, but whilst there have been good signs from rookie running back Melvin Gordon, injuries on the offensive line have meant that Rivers is taking too many hits. More worryingly, the defence has not been good, and is particularly bad against the run. A ranking of 25^th by defensive DVOA is not what you want when Le’Veon Bell is coming to town. The Steelers should have won the game last Thursday, with Michael Vick demonstrating his limitation, but doing enough to win if the clock management/kicking game had been better. It is not a good spot to be picking an underdog on the road, but they’ve had extra days to get over last week’s overtime and the extra half point sways me that this close game will result in a Steelers cover or win.

Gee’s Pick:     Steelers

So a little delayed, I present this week’s picks:

One of the things I love about the NFL is also one of the things that make the process of picking games so difficult. On any given Sunday you’ll get the unexpected and there are very few nailed on wins or losses. Last week I was five and eight, but I only dropped another game behind Dan so hopefully I can still turn this round. The reason we had such a tough week is that who could have predicted that the 0-3 Buccaneers would beat the Steelers; or that the struggling Vikings would batter the Falcons 41-28; or that the Eagles would block a punt to score a touchdown, return an interception for a touchdown, and return another punt for a touchdown, yet still lose to the 49ers. There are picks I feel good about that lost and some that I’d love to have back, but I think we’re beginning to get a better idea about some of these teams so let’s take look at the upcoming week.

Gee:     Week 4   5-8                Overall   26-35
Dan:     Week 4   6-7                Overall   28-33

Vikings @ Packers (-9.5)

The quality of the Thursday night games has been somewhat up and down again this season, and I’d love to see a close game at some point. I’m looking forward to this game a lot, the Vikings had a really good win on Sunday against the Falcons with Teddy Bridgewater in his first game taking care of the ball and throwing for 317 yards, whilst their defence held the Falcons enough to win. The worrying this is that Teddy Bridgewater sprained is ankle and is questionable for this game. It appears that the Aaron Rodgers was right when he told Packer’s fans to relax, as he threw for 302 yards and four touchdowns, shredding the Bears defence to win their game. I’m struggling a little with this game, as I don’t think that the Vikings will allow over 200 yards of rushing but they have been inconsistent and Teddy Bridgewater is a doubt I think that the Packers will win this game, although there are still questions about them, and this is me changing my mind, but the Thursday night games have been very one sided so I think the Packers will cover the points as well.

Gee’s Pick:      Packers
Dan’s Pick:      Packers

Dan’s Comments: – his one is pretty difficult because of the spread, but I think I’ll go for Packers on this one.

Falcons @ Giants (-3.5)

This is an interesting pairing of teams. The Falcons have been Jekyll & Hyde all season, although the Saints and Bucs are looking bad so I’m not sure how much faith to put in them at all. I’ve seen them a couple of times, the Bengals defence stifled them pretty well in that loss and the Bucs didn’t offer much resistance when the Falcons beat them. Their offence looks good when it is firing but they literally ran out of linemen on Sunday and had to use a tight end as a right tackle for an extended stretch., They lack a pass rush and depth in the middle of the defence although their corners are good. Overall, I’m not convinced by them against competent opposition and their o-line is going to remain a mess. The Giants have been improving all season, and whilst I need to be careful as Thursday night games have flattered several teams this year, I think that Manning is getting to grips with the new offence and looked really good against Washington. Now granted, that was against a defence that got very little pressure and looked horrible in coverage, but I don’t see the Falcons doing much better overall despite their corners. I like the Giants to win this game, and strongly enough that I’ll take whilst giving points..

Gee’s Pick:      Giants
Dan’s Pick:      Giants

Dan’s Comments: – Giants absolutely took Washington apart in week 4, while the Falcons were taken apart by the Vikings, so I’m going to go with Giants in this game.

Bills @ Lions (-7.5)

It has taken me for attempts to start writing this game up, which is because I am so confused by the Bills. They have a great defensive line, have played well in spurts, but EJ Manuel has been so inconsistent that they’ve dropped him. I think this is because of how open the division is this year, but I don’t think the Bills are going in the right direction. However, the Lions appear to be as they’ve been more disciplined and are good on defence. They racked up a solid win against the Jets despite Calvin Johnson being quiet and I see them beating the Bills fairly easily. I could be wrong as I’ve only picked one Bills game correctly all season, but I’m going for the Lions.

Gee’s Pick:      Lions
Dan’s Pick:      Lionss

Dan’s Comments: – Got to be Lions. While they didn’t run away with the Jets, I still think they’ve got enough to go over the Bills.

Bears @ Panthers (-2.5)

The Carolina Panthers lost heavily to a good Ravens team, but the worrying thing for them is that the defence that initially seemed so good is currently ranked twenty-eighth by DVOA and is beginning to show cracks as they are missing some pieces. The o-line is starting to look how many feared it would going into the season, and. I worry about this team going forward. The Bears are a flawed team, that to an extent are going to live and die on the difference between good Cutler and bad Cutler, because he has one of those arms that makes him think he can make every throw. In some games this will work and in others he’ll throw interceptions, but the Bears defence is not one that follows in the traditions of the club. In fairness, they held up pretty well in the run, which was the area of concern for many, but they were shredded by Aaron Rodgers. I’m wary of reading too much into team rankings, as match ups do matter, but there are thirteen places between them by DVOA and I think the Bears will recover in this game.

Gee’s Pick:      Bears
Dan’s Pick:      Bears

Dan’s Comments: – Two teams who struggled last week, but let’s go with the Bears.

Browns @ Titans (-2.5)

Oh dear, the Titans gave up nearly 500 yards to the Colts last week, and after winning against the Chiefs in week 1, they have lost three straight. They are uncertain at quarterback, and so whilst they have some good looking receivers, they have no one to throw them the ball, yet somehow they’re giving points to the Browns. Mike Pettine has the Browns playing pretty well, their defence is not ranked as highly as I thought they would be, but their offence is doing surprisingly well despite missing some parts and I think they will have too much for the Titans as they come off their bye week.

Gee’s Pick:      Browns
Dan’s Pick:      Browns

Dan’s Comments: – Can’t see any further than the Browns against Titans this week

Texans @ Cowboys (-4.5)

This is a really hard game for me to pick. The Cowboys have surprised everyone by playing okay on defence, and running the ball behind a good young offensive line. There is a worry about DeMaroc Murray as although he’s been superb in four games, already racking up 534 yards, he has never played sixteen games, but right now they are doing well. I haven’t got a full read on the Texans. They’re not the most amazing team on either side of the ball, but they find a way to win and they have the best defensive player in the league. I’ll try not to get boring on the subject of JJ Watt, but last week he returned an interception for a touchdown, and did not look like a 3-4 defensive end whilst doing it, as well as racking up nine quarterback hits. I think this could be a close game, but I’m taking the points and going with the Texans.

Gee’s Pick:      Texans
Dan’s Pick:      Texans

Dan’s Comments: – Two in form teams. I can see the Texans D controlling the Cowboys O, so I’ll go for the Texans.

Ravens @ Colts (-3.5)

The Colts have got themselves back on track with two straight wins, but they were against the Jaguars and Titans. When people are making comments about even Trent Richardson scores against the Titans, it is bad for the Titans, but it is also not great if you’re the team that traded a first round pick to get him. I am not convinced by this team, although Andrew Luck is excellent. However, they are facing a Ravens team that steamrollered the Panthers and have looked good for most of the season. The defence is playing well, and the offence is really coming along. I don’t expect Steve Smith Snr, who has been good all year. to be quite as fired up as he was when facing his old team, but I fancy the Ravens to at least cover in this game, if not win.

Gee’s Pick:      Ravens
Dan’s Pick:      Colts

Dan’s Comments: – I think the Ravens are the obvious choice here, but I just can’t help but thinking the Colts will take it for some reason!

Rams @ Eagles (-7.5)

The Eagles have problems with their offensive line, which they have been working round for most of the season, but it was too much to overcome on Sunday. The 49ers defence did an amazing job on the Eagles offence, and it was only their special teams play and a pick six that kept the Eagles in the game. I wrote last week that I thought they could lose, but they wouldn’t by more than six and I was right. This is a game that I can see them winning, but I’m not sure that they will by eight or more. There is still a lot of talent on the Rams defence that hasn’t clicked yet this season, but in Austin Davis they found a quarterback that moved the ball against the Cowboys, and the Eagles are not good on defence. I think they might do okay in this game coming off a bye, although I might be wary of large lines after last week, but I’m backing the Rams to cover.

Gee’s Pick:      Rams
Dan’s Pick:      Eagles

Dan’s Comments: – I think the Eagles will have this one pretty easy this week. I’ve not liked much of what I’ve seen of St. Louis so far this year.

Buccaneers @ Saints (-10.5)

Now this is a line to worry about. I’m really pleased that the Bucs proved me wrong, and having said that I couldn’t see where they were going to win a game, they promptly beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh. They got Gerald McCoy and Michael Johnson back on the defensive line, which did much better than against the Falcons, and Mike Glennon gave them better play than McCown at quarterback. The reason that this line bothers me is that both teams are 1-3 and whilst I don’t exactly trust the Bucs, I don’t see why the Saints are giving 10.5 points, even if they are back home. The Saints have not been clicking on offence, and might really be regretting trading Darren Sproles to the Eagles. Their defence, that improved so much last year, seems to be returning to average, with Rob Ryan blitzing a lot and not winning on his gambles. This Saints have struggled this season and I hate the points spread even if they do beat the Bucs, which I’m not convinced they will.

Gee’s Pick:      Buccaneers
Dan’s Pick:      Buccaneers

Dan’s Comments: – Another one I’ve struggled with when picking, as I think given the spread it could go either way.

Steelers @ Jaguars (+6.5)

I feel sorry for the Jaguars this week. They’ve played well in stretches, but haven’t been able to put together a whole game, although it does look like there are promising signs that they’ve found their quarterback. The worrying thing for me is that they are ranked thirty-first in defence by DVOA and that is Gus Bradley’s side of the ball. It might be that they can turn it round as the season goes on, and let’s hope they do for the London game, but I’ll believe it when I see it. The Steelers are another Jekyll & Hyde team, alternating wins and losses. They have one the best receivers playing at the moment in Antonio Brown, and have been looking pretty good on offence, but their defence is struggling. It’s looked a bit old at time and they were missing players last week against the Bucs. I really liked what I saw of Ryan Shazier so they’ll be hoping to get him back soon. I think that this is an experienced team who are going to be furious after last week’s result and in the Jaguars, they are playing against a good team to help them get back on track. I might be wrong, but I think this is another big loss for the Jaguars.

Gee’s Pick:      Steelers
Dan’s Pick:      Steelers

Dan’s Comments: – Steelers to bounce back this week. Sorry Jags fans – this is becoming a long season for you!

Caridnals @ Broncos (-7.5)

This is a cracking game, with both teams playing well and coming off a bye. The Cardinals have been excellent on defence, but Carson Palmer is still having problems with a nerve issue in his shoulder and so I’m worried about them on offence. The Broncos are not playing as well as last year on offence, but they don’t need to with the bolstering of their defence during the offseason, and they may well be a better overall team as a result. I think this game is almost impossible to call, I think it will be close but I could see either side winning handily. This pick is coming down to points, and whilst the Broncos are at home, and traditionally have a good home field advantage due to the altitude, I’m wary of the 7.5 number.

Gee’s Pick:      Cardinals
Dan’s Pick:      Cardinals

Dan’s Comments: – Arizona to continue their winning streak after their Bye last Sunday.

Chiefs @ 49ers (-7.5)

There are times when you should follow your convictions, and my first instinct was to pick the Chiefs last week. I was backing the Brady, Belichik combination on Monday night, which I said was a bad reason to pick a game and so it proved to be. The Chiefs played well on defence, moved the ball on a Patriots defence, which was ranked highly and beat the Patriots convincingly enough that some are question if it is the end of an era in New England. I’ll save talk of that for when I write about the Patriots, but clearly the Chiefs are heading in the right direction. The 49ers did it with defence last week against the Eagles. There still seem to be some issues with their offence, but they did well to overcome their special teams miscues and get a much needed win. I’m really not sure how this one is going, so I am again running away from giving this many points in a game I don’t have a strong opinion on.

Gee’s Pick:      Chiefs
Dan’s Pick:      Chiefs

Dan’s Comments: – It’s got to be the Chiefs after their fantastic result on this week’s MNF.

Jets @ Chargers (-7.5)

The Jets are currently ranked seventeenth on defence by DVOA, which when you consider their secondary is possibly not that bad, but if your identity as a team is one of defence then it is a problem. There are signs that Geno Smith is making progress, but not fast enough, and there were ugly scenes when the Jets fans starting chanting for Michael Vick. They have only one win and I don’t seem them getting a second this week. I’m not sure if there is a quarterback playing better than Phil Rivers at the moment, who is doing it without a good running game and a defence that is holding its own. I’m a little bit worried about the points, but in this game I’m prepared to give them as the Chargers are a team that I’m 3-1 with across the season.

Gee’s Pick:      Chargers
Dan’s Pick:      Chargers

Dan’s Comments: – The Chargers are on fire at the minute, and the Jets aren’t making things easy for themselves. San Diego win.

Bengals @ Patriots (-2.5)

I wrote about Patriots line last week and I only backed them as they were on Monday night football. We’ve had too many games now for this to be an aberration, but whilst I still have nagging doubts about picking against them on a nationally televised game I can’t back them in this one. The line might improve, but it seems a mess at the moment, and the skill players can’t get open. The Bengals have looked pretty good on offence despite missing some parts, whilst the defence has looked great even with Burfit missing time with a concussion. I’m worried about jinxing this, but I think the Bengals will win without the aid of a thunderstorm this time.

Gee’s Pick:      Bengals
Dan’s Pick:      Bengals

Dan’s Comments: – The Patriots are one of the lowest scoring teams in the league this year, and the Bengals are scoring an average of 27 points a game without letting much past them. Easy

Seattle @ Washington (+7.5)

I wrote about how bad the Washington defence against the Giants last week, which actually worries me more than the wobble Kirk Cousins had forcing the issue as he tried to get them back in the game. I don’t think he will be as bad, but I don’t see him coping with the Seahawks defence, even if they don’t have the amazing Seattle crowd helping them. The Seahawks are fresh of a bye and are looking like there are going to go deep again this season, making this a fairly straight forward pick.

Gee’s Pick:      Seahawks
Dan’s Pick:      Seahawks

Dan’s Comments: – I think this one’s got to be the Seahawks. I don’t think Washington have it in them this week.

I feel pretty good about this weeks’ picks, but then I do most weeks. Sadly I’m only picking against Dan twice this week so I’m not sure I’ll be making much ground up on any time soon.